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Bryant Roses Is Grateful For His Domestic Life, However Fleeting The Moments May Be

Most of the musicians I’ve interviewed on this show spend significant portions of the year on the road. A recent guest noted she played 160 shows in 2024 and immediately acknowledged it was a bit much. Bryant Roses is not one of those musicians. He works a day job and wouldn’t trade the road for the time he gets to spend with his three kids. 

The result is the type of album few touring musicians could produce. He dives fully into the small world of his home. Gardening takes center stage on a few songs. He documents the internal struggles and joys associated with raising kids like only someone fully involved in doing so can. 

“I like my domestic life and if that means sacrificing some of the potential success I’d have, I think that’s fine,” he said. 

He’s always enjoyed writing music and has used social media promotion as a way of sidestepping the touring. On his song “Small Star,” he celebrates the time he gets to spend with his wife as a result of his choice. He acknowledges that few will hear his music, but prefers that to being a bright shooting star. “We won’t burn out that easily,” he says.

“There’s a whole sea of small stars thanks to social media,” Roses said. “Anyone can make a song and have a million people listen to it and that’s more accessible to more people. Aside from all the pitfalls of social media, I do think there’s something beautiful about being able to make more artists.”

Artistry is something important to Roses, who has always been something of a songwriter. He started posting covers on social media and releasing new music in part to promote the idea that anyone can participate in something beautiful. 

“One of the reasons I started to pursue it again is for my kids,” Roses said. “It’s something that’s always been a big part of my life and it had taken a little bit of a back seat. But I really wanted to show my kids that you can pursue a creative life if you have a day job or aren’t living the life of a touring musician.”

The day job doesn’t get much mention, but the time with his kids certainly does. They’re the center of his world and he’s looking to make the most of his time with them. 

“Being a parent, you’re confronted with these moments of meaning that are so deep and so profound, but at the same time so fleeting,” Roses said. “The day to day life that may seem mundane are actually the kind of moments I want to stand in front of more fully and not just let them slip by.” 

“Hallelujah” is the closest he comes to complaining. There’s still plenty of appreciation, but the little difficulties get mentioning here. The title praise comes at the notion that eventually, he’ll get some sleep. This album is so noble and pure when it comes to parenting and love, so a little humor and realism goes a long way in making it relatable.

Gardening is a major part of the album, though the songs aren’t quite about maintaining a garden. In “Baby Redbud,” Roses is marveling at the experience of watching something under his care grow. It’s gorgeous to hear him sing about helping the tree through the winter and heartbreaking when he arrives at the eventuality that comes with being a parent: “I don’t want to leave but I got to.” In his telling, nurture is like watering a plant and pruning is a bit like stepping in when the kids are acting up.

“Exactly when it crosses the line gets pretty blurry when you have a bunch of boys laughing, and then wrestling, and then it gets a little too much,” Roses said. 

Echoing his father’s words, he noted that his role was changing as his kids got older: “As your kids age, the problems require a little bit less immediate attention but they get more complicated.”

The gardening metaphor extends to the internal struggles. Roses compares the early childhood years to a winter inside. 

“You’re focusing on keeping this small baby safe and fed and you just turn inwardly for an amount of time, Roses said. “When they grow up you slowly start to emerge into the world.” 

It’s not a coincidence then that he ends the album on a song called “In The Weeds” that marks going back into the world and the need to work on himself again. But that neat ending comes with a bit of a catch. At the time of our interview, the Roses had just brought their newborn third child home.

Above is the full episode as aired on WUSB’s Country Pocket, including both my interview with Bryant Roses and the songs we discussed, starting with Baby Redbud, which turns gardening into a bittersweet reflection on parenting. The interview begins with the second video in the playlist. You can hear the show live every Tuesday at 12pm on WUSB 90.1 FM or check the blog to watch it as a YouTube playlist. Visit http://www.WUSB.fm and https://bryantroses.comfor more.

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Kaitlin Butts Reimagines Oklahoma With Modern Edge on Roadrunner

A few years back, a broadway production claimed to modernize a revival of Oklahoma with a more fitting Americana sound and grit. Naturally, Kaitlin Butts went to see the musical she’s so fond of when it came to Tennessee on tour. She wasn’t a fan.

“I was excited to see how they modernized it, I was excited to see how they include a non-binary person and a person in wheelchair, but I was so disappointed,” Butts said. “They didn’t change the script at all but they were wearing graphic t-shirts. They were husking corn and spewing beer onto the audience. I felt like they were mocking it.”

“Roadrunner” is her own attempt at reimagining Oklahoma, this time with mostly original songs and a truly country sound with a few cinematic touches of rock and, yes, musical theater. The result for Butts is a classic that includes gorgeous romantic duets, a strong and slightly dangerous female perspective, and perfectly placed Kesha cover that ties it all together with profanity, threats, and unbelievable charm. More than anything else, Butts succeeds at imagining a country sound that trades in pop impurities for more natural influences and character driven story telling. 

Roadrunner is my pick for album of the year and should serve as a roadmap on how to update some of the richest sources of material in American culture without losing anything by adding a feisty new perspective.

“Come Rest Your Head (On My Pillow)” should be considered a new country standard. The bonafides are absolutely there. The song rests on a foundation of fiddle and steel guitar with just a hint of more modern instruments. While Vince Gill provides the backing vocals, Butts carries the song with a performance that’s beckoning and just a little sad. Butts explained she intended the song for her husband, but wrote the lyrics to be open to interpretation; the song works just as well as an invitation to a “midnight flavor piece.”

Getting Vince Gill to contribute to the magic and give it his stamp of approval was the result of a magical night at the Opry. Though she didn’t notice as it was happening, Gill was on the side of the stage watching Butts’ performance closely. Afterward, he introduced himself and offered a hug. The fact that she secured such an impressive duet partner and fan still stuns Butts. 

“It’s weird to say, but I opened my Spotify Wrapped to see that song was one of my top songs,” Butts admitted. “I listen to it so often because hearing his voice on it catches me off guard every time. Just to remind myself that I had Vince Gill sing on one of my songs. That’s not real. That’s a hallucination.” 

Yet most of the magic of Roadrunner comes from songs that don’t sound like country classics. A cover of “Bang, Bang (My Baby Shot Me Down)” encapsulates Butts’ rock influences in a way that makes it sound like it’s playing at an arena or on the big screen. “Other Girls (Ain’t Havin’ Any Fun)” sees Butts arguing that she’s better off going after what she wants in a way that might not be considered lady like.

“There’s nothing I’ve ever gotten in my life that I haven’t charged for myself,” Butts said. “That sometimes includes men or job opportunities. I think if you go after what you want, you control your own destiny.” 

Tracks like “Hunt You Down” and “If I Can’t Have You” show a more dangerous side of Butts. Nothing shows that this update of “Oklahoma” has a thoroughly modern attitude than Butts declaring “If you fuck around, boy I’ll hunt you down.” The words were penned by none other than Kesha but sound more like a country song than you’d believe if you’ve only heard her hits. Butts said her lyrics about murder may not come from experience, but they’re a healthy expression of her genuine thoughts.

“The best way for me to get anger out is for me to write a song about it,” Butts said. “Then I get to profit off it. I’m gonna let God sort it out, because if I sort it out, I’m going to jail.”

“It’s the most fun thing that I can imagine to do is to just be passive aggressive in a sweet, southern way,” Butts added of her character’s tendency to have edge even when she wasn’t threatening murder. “You can say things delicately, but with a sword.” 

The final element that makes Roadrunner so uniquely charming is the way Butts mastered the spoken word. Whether it’s her snarky asides on “You Ain’t Gotta Die (To Be Dead To Me)” or the genuinely laugh out loud “Baby, I love you so much, don’t make me kill you” on “Hunt You Down,” Butts makes it clear she’s mastered the acting part of musical theater. She mostly uses her spoken lines for humor and making her characters feel more authentically sweet but tough, and it’s just one more reason that a musical makes for an amazing country album. 

“The humor is what I have always loved about theater and the story telling,” Butts said. “It’s such a weird comparison, but country music — they have so much in common. The way they express a sad song in a dramatic way. I definitely draw from musical theater when it comes to expressing that cheekiness.” 

The album closes with a song called Elsa, much like Oklahoma features a conversation with an older woman towards the end of its script. The story behind Elsa comes from actual experiences Butts had singing country classics at nursing homes.

“Whenever I would play old, classic country songs, their eyes would light up,” Butts said. “There would be people who weren’t quite necessarily in the room with us and they would wake up. It was so incredible to see that and how powerful music is.” 

Other tracks are worth mentioning on their own merits. “Spur” reminds us that people do better being respected and having self agency, especially in relationships. “Wild Juanita’s Cactus Juice” is full of fun alliteration and the sort of half-spoken singing that every musical needs. “Followed You To Vegas” is a shockingly sweet and tender happily ever after song. And “People Will Say We’re In Love,” the lone song from the original musical to make it onto the album, is sweet as ever with touches of folk.

If Oklahoma! was a romantic vision of what’s possible in the American West, Roadrunner is a charming vision of what Western music could look like borrowing the right touches of modern attitude and sound. Butts has produced great music before this, but she gains something extra from the winking relationship a musical has with its audience and the way 17 tracks allows her to expand the narrative and development of her characters. Roadrunner is a reminder that the mere presence of graphic tees or underrepresented characters doesn’t make for a modern story. Shifting perspective to a unique and independent woman with agency and confidence, however, makes for a beautiful work of art that both honors the spirit of the original and upends the norms of 50s culture. And not a single person needs to be drenched in beer.

Above is the full episode as aired on WUSB’s Country Pocket, including both my interview with Kaitlin Butts and the songs we discussed, starting with Other Girls (Aren’t Having Any Fun), which feels a little more school of rock than broadway musical. The interview begins with the second video in the playlist. You can hear the show live every Tuesday at 12pm on WUSB 90.1 FM or check the blog to watch it as a YouTube playlist. Visit http://www.WUSB.fm and https://www.kaitlinbutts.com for more.

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Protest Songwriter Lou Dominguez Expands To Cover Love and Faith on Hanging At The Luna Star

Lou Dominguez is a folk musician who hungers for the type of folk musician he grew up listening to. 

“Let’s go back to the 60s/the village beatnik scene/when heroic writers still mixed politics with song,” he sings in “For Steve Earle.”

Lou Dominguez also happens to be that kind of folk musician. He didn’t expect to be writing for such dark times, but he seems more than up to the challenge.

“Barack Obama became the president of the United States and I thought maybe, maybe we were done with this,” Dominguez said. “Clearly we’re not.”

While he praises Steve Earle, Ani DiFranco, and Tracy Chapman in his music, he’s struggling to find a prominent folk artist who is at their most relevant today for writing protest songs. 

The key word here is relevant. Folk as a genre has faded in popularity and while some Americana stars have found mainstream success, songs about love, loss, and substances have driven them there. Adeem the Artist may be releasing some of the most brilliant political material ever released, but they’ve gained relatively little attention beyond the No Depression crowd.

Dominguez believes that this is due in part to algorithms deciding too much of what we listen to. 

“It becomes about the numbers and computers,” he said. “Companies are companies and companies are in business to make money. They’re less concerned with people’s feelings.”

This hasn’t deterred Dominguez from releasing his own protest music over the past decade and a half. Hangin’ at the Luna Star is one of his more varied works; it features a few love songs and happy stories along side the more characteristic protest songs, which Dominguez knows how to write well. His deep knowledge of the issues is made all the more impactful by the way he makes it clear how these problems can impact his listeners.

“Our Maldives” advocates for action on the climate to rescue low lying islands but raises the stakes for his home state listeners when he points out Miami might not be far behind. “The United States of Debt” makes brilliant connections. He illustrates how the working poor are bringing their little government support in the form of food stamps to the same superstores that are underpaying them in the first place. He also nails the comparison between what’s going on now and the company stores of days gone by, a system most roots music fans know of thanks to “Sixteen Tons.” 

“It was a problem then and it’s a worse problem now,” Dominguez said. “We have another version of it. You still owe the company store at the end of the week, you just owe it on your credit card.”

His most audacious act on the album was writing a new verse to Chapman’s classic “Talkin’ Bout a Revolution.” It’s a little more about cultural issues than the financial topics covered in the original, but it certainly captures the topics that most animate progressives today. 

“It’s no disrespect in any form,” Dominguez said of updating the classic. “I felt like that song was written in the 80s and we are almost 40 years from there now. I felt like there were new issues. It wasn’t me feeling emboldened to think that I can write something better than Tracy Chapman at all. I was feeling that there was new stuff going on and putting that into the song would make it more interesting.” 

Less expected for Dominguez was the inclusion of a few love songs, something he’d avoided throughout his career. They’re more melancholy than passionate but detailed and classy.

“When it comes to love, I’ve never come out on the side that wins,” Dominguez said. “My love songs are going to be a little bit sad. I’m probably guilty of part of that.”

“Eddie Went to Nashville” is an inspiring heartbreaker in which death isn’t the end of the joy a relationship brings. “The Runner Up” is a highlight for how emotionally intelligent the man is. When he finds out his first love is divorced, he leaves the bar and looks at the sky. The song might seem like it’s preparing for him to take another chance at love, but he ultimately just says a prayer for her. It’s gorgeous and somehow much more satisfying than a happy ending.

“That’s not real,” Dominguez said. “The real story is he knew that it was over years ago so he gave up on it, but he doesn’t have any less love for her. I think it’s a nice way of saying goodbye.”

Interestingly enough, he had originally written a song about a failed relationship where he did not come off well.

“‘Just Anyone,’ when I started writing it, I was just broken up with a woman who had a son,” Dominguez said. “I wrote it from my perspective. I was lucky enough to have a woman friend who didn’t smack me in the face, but she might’ve well.” 

He changed some details and instead sang from the perspective of a father and husband who felt like his wife held him low on her list of priorities. Suddenly he was more sympathetic.

Dominguez also tells two different stories of religion on the album. On one, he protests against a faith healer of sorts who profits handsomely from her work. On the other, he calls the words “thank you” his “Simple Little Prayer” and shows he doesn’t need a church in his life to feel blessed. Taken together, they’re a roadmap to a healthier relationship with faith than the most public advocates of religion tend to have.

An amusing highlight of our interview was Dominguez introducing me to the term “Trump Load.” As in, Dominguez has parents who a Trump voters who he loves very much. But as a result, he’s uninterested in letting other Trump voters in his life. He already has his Trump Load. 

Dominguez knows that things will be rough for a little while, but he said he’s optimistic. He said the next two years will be rough, not the next four, so he’s expecting strong results in the midterms. Even if Dominguez is right, I suspect there will be material for a few new protest songs.

Above is the full episode as aired on WUSB’s Country Pocket, including both my interview with Lou Dominguez and the songs we discussed, starting with For Steve Earle, an appreciative call for more protest songs in these difficult times. The interview begins with the second video in the playlist. You can hear the show live every Tuesday at 12pm on WUSB 90.1 FM or check the blog to watch it as a YouTube playlist. Visit http://www.WUSB.fm and https://loudominguez.com/ for more.

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House of Hamill Finds Beauty in Dark Tales and Darkness in the Beauty of Nature

House of Hamill is led by Brian Buchanan and Rose Baldino, two married musicians with a background in Celtic fiddle playing. They are a contradiction in many ways. Lyrically, they are steeped in tragedy and even gore. Yet more often than not, they seem to be having fun with the material or find a way to convey a beautiful message. Even in their most pessimistic song, they encourage listeners to focus on the beauty of the world while they can. Meanwhile, their sound is an otherworldly blend of ancient folk and modern progressive sensibility. 

“When two musicians start a relationship, obviously, they’re eventually going to start writing together and see what comes out,” Buchanan explained. “I think the first couple of [House of Hamill] albums were just us grabbing every influence and thing we’d never gotten to do with our other bands and trying to impress each other”

Caroline Browning joining the trio marked a turning point. Harmonies and acoustic instruments were in, “wacky and wild” rock songs were out. The result is progressive folk like Americans have rarely heard because the backbone is so old world. With fewer modern influences, their take on “Silver Dagger” might be more welcome at a renaissance festival than a bluegrass festival. 

“Banks of the Brandywine,” their lead single, draws inspiration from tracks with percussive vocals like “Hayloft” from Nickel Creek and several by the band Metric. A mandolin and tightened strings provide a rhythm that feels fierce and urgent while the lyrics dive into horrors and urban legends.

“We really love old folk stories and we’re also big true crime fans,” Baldino said. “We often find these spooky stories and listen to a lot of podcasts because we drive a lot. Some of it is made up for sure, probably by teenagers, but there’s definitely folk lore that’s actually true. We like the creepy stuff.” 

“Usually truth is actually stranger and creepier than fiction,” Buchanan added.

A great example is the story of Michael Malloy, also known as the Rasputin of the Bronx. In 1932 the patrons of a bar took out life insurance on the heavy-drinking immigrant, thinking he’d quickly succumb to alcohol poisoning when being allowed to drink for free. He survived weeks of untold damage to his liver along with poisoning attempts, being doused with water while sleeping one off outside in the freezing cold, and being run over by a taxi. Other versions of the tale allege he was fled tacks, glass, and a machine gun shooting before finally being taken out by poison gas more than a month into the project. 

The song describes the frustration of his killers while giving off a sort of fun vibe. If taunting the failures of long since executed murderers can be mined for some joy, I’m all for it. The folk tradition, especially older songs, takes far too much joy in the actual murdering of lovers for anything on this album to be offensive. The suffering here is fodder for campfire tales far less lurid than a typical true crime podcast.

Wildfire features not just morbid enjoyment of dark tales, but inspiration in overcoming the darkness. If death can be played for spooky fun on this album, it can also be the source of tremendous tenderness and beauty.

“Into the Golden,” a traditional folk song by the standards of this band, is based on a William Butler Yeats poem called “Dream of a Blessed Spirit.” Sure, the poem is about someone dying. But the lines “When the stars but dimly shine/don’t go into the golden/light of the morning/with a troubled mind” are well, gorgeous whether it’s about ascending to the thereafter or simply starting a new day.

Twice on the album, House of Hamill departs from the world of lore and high art to tackle in-the-now type subjects. Twice, they show a knack for addressing painful issues with thoughtfulness.

It’s clear that “Shine” is a comeback story by the end of a refrain, though a difficult. The circumstances are not made explicit, but the main character is moving away after experiencing some kind of rejection by her church. The band revealed that it was about her seeking reproductive health, though it wouldn’t have shocked me if they said she was queer. 

Buchanan based it on stories “of people who thought they belonged in a community but then because of their life circumstances were forced to leave that community to find somewhere where they’d be respected or their rights would be respected,” he said.“I was inspired by the courage that it takes to make a break with your comfort zone and striking out on your own to find a place where you can truly shine and be yourself. We’re both lucky because we both have great families who are very supportive. But we’re also both proponents of the idea that your family can be the family that you choose. When you find the people who really are your tribe, they can be the ones who support you even when the other people in your life don’t anymore.”

There’s a great faith in the lyrics of “Shine” that our main character will find her way, if only by starlight. There’s nothing close to that kind of relief in the title track, which somehow ends the album on a more dour note than if it had concluded with a song called “Unquiet Grave.”

“It’s the realest [on the album], for sure,” Buchanan said of the track.“We were inspired because we had to go out and buy an air purifier because we couldn’t breathe in our own house. So very literally, by wildfires in Canada.”

The plume of smoke was memorable for many in New York, though House of Hamill saw it as a warning of a dark future to come. In their view, environmental degradation is coming and our best move would be to enjoy the beauty while it lasts. 

“It’s not a super hopeful song, unless you consider the image of a phoenix rising from the ashes to be a symbol of hope,” he added. “We did think the idea of a wildfire captured the imagery in a lot of the songs: the cycle of death leading to a new rebirth. So hopefully that comes through a little bit and it’s not just depressing.”  

For their part, House of Hamill is enjoying nature often. They speak highly of time spent in national parks, around mountains, and even decompressed on election night by sleeping in a cabin with a glass wall facing a wolf enclosure. 

“There’s no television in the cabin,” Buchanan said. There’s spotty internet and cellphone reception. So you’re sort of forced to just sit there by a window looking at nothing and waiting. Every few hours an incredible creature will come wandering by, and that’s just how it is.”

Wildfire may be a dark song and album, but House of Hamill is taking their own words to heart and soaking in every source unique, glimmering light they can find.

Above is the full episode as aired on WUSB’s Country Pocket, including both my interview with Buchanan and Baldino and the songs we discussed, starting with Banks of the Brandywine, which began without a specific river in mind. The interview begins with the second video in the playlist. You can hear the show live every Tuesday at 12pm on WUSB 90.1 FM or check the blog to watch it as a YouTube playlist. Visit http://www.WUSB.fm and https://www.houseofhamill.com/home for more.

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The Radical Joy of Twisted Pine and Love Your Mind

When I first met Twisted Pine, they were playing a festival on the island and had just released an EP primarily composed of Bill Monroe covers. They were talented, if not particularly unique. Things have changed. 

Clearly, they’ve been listening to most everything. Their progressive sound contains everything listed above, along with some pop and country. Above all, it’s fun and joyful. 

“When the four of us get together and get on stage, there is certainly an element of playfulness and fun and humor in our personalities that comes out in our music,” said mandolinist Dan Bui, noting that capturing that experience was a major goal when recording the album.

“It almost feels radical in a way,” added upright bassist Chris Sartori. “There’s so much sorrow out there in the world and it feels like something we can generate for ourselves and give to our audience.” 

Anh Phung, the band’s flutist, was the only member not available for the interview. Yes, this is a bluegrass band with a flutist. And yes, it works. The band may take on many styles, but they remain an acoustic outlet with (mostly) traditional bluegrass instruments even on their funkiest tracks.

Joy is quite literally the topic of standout single “Goosebump Feeling.” Parks says the feeling comes in waves, though sometimes she doesn’t expect that it will ever come back. 

“It’s continuous ups and downs. Sometimes you’ll even out but it’s nice when you catch that high,” Parks said.

“After Midnight (Nothing Good Happens)” captures a very specific moment of joy through which the band bonded and honed their sound: late nights at a bluegrass festival.

“That’s when the real fun of the festival is just getting started,” said Bui. “Everybody goes back to their campsite, they start breaking into their cooler, they start grilling, they build a fire, and start picking tunes.”

The members Twisted Pine make for particularly interesting guests at a campfire thanks to the presence of Phung. 

“The way Anh plays, she’s really good at blending her sound in with traditional instruments,” Sartori said. “People get excited about the flute because it’s so unique and Anh is usually the only flutist at the jam, although recently there’s been an influx. She’s building a little flute army.”

On the track the band acknowledges that factors like mosquitoes, nausea, and the simple difficulty of functioning the day after an all-night pickathon can lead to some regrets. They also know they’ll be back. 

The instrumentals on the album are already unique by virtue of the flute. So the genre-bending and playfulness put them into a category of their own. At least until the flute army gets recording contracts, these will be some of the most recognizable instrumentals of any bluegrass band. 

“A Beautiful Phase” is the only slower, plaintive track on the album, somewhere between reminiscing and regretting. But if any of these songs can be said to have a slight edge to them, it’s “Chanel Perfume.” It’s far and away the track least influenced by bluegrass and serves as notice to a man wasting the singer’s time. 

“Don’t use up my time in this way; I’m trying to get out there, strut my stuff, be free, be me, and I don’t need someone standing in my way,”  Parks said, taking on a slightly silly and chill tone of voice. She then switched to a serious tone. “In this day and age, for women in particular, there are so many people trying to take away what is ours.”

Quickly though, Parks said she wasn’t looking to elaborate on those comments. There is certainly a complex and difficult world out there, but Love Your Mind is about the joy.

Above is the full episode as aired on WUSB’s Country Pocket, including both my interview with Twisted Pine and the songs we discussed, starting with After Midnight, which captures the joy present throughout the album by describing a bluegrass festival. The interview begins with the second video in the playlist. You can hear the show live every Tuesday at 12pm on WUSB 90.1 FM or check the blog to watch it as a YouTube playlist. Visit http://www.WUSB.fm and https://www.twistedpineband.com/home for more.

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For Wild Ponies, Love Overcomes All On Their Quest For Parenthood

Doug and Telisha Williams of Wild Ponies have a family now. With traditional procreation not an option for them, they turned to adoption and fetal embryo transfer to get their children River and Iris. Dreamers, as an album, documents this process along with the joys, pains, and anxieties of being responsible for tiny lives. 

“We looked at it like a quest like Legends of Zelda,” Doug said. “It didn’t matter what you had to do to get the parts, but you had to collect the pieces to make a family.”

As much as parenthood has changed their day to day and touring mindset, it’s also changed them.

“I’m up a lot earlier than I used to be, but it’s really fun to watch them learn and pick things up and think things out and interact with each other,” Doug said. 

”It’s also beautiful to see your partner — we’ve been together since we were in high school — and it’s been such a beautiful experience to see Doug as a dad,” Telisha added. “He’s a great dad. He’s so patient and so quick to do the most fun things. I’ve known Doug most of my life, but now I’m seeing this whole new human.” 

The anxieties and pains of parenthood are ever present on this album. Few songs will ever hit quite as hard as “Love You Right Now,” a description of caring for a foster child right before they’re due to be moved. Small sweet memories like making breakfast have to be stretched a lifetime. And yet, you can’t think about preserving them in the moment.

“I think the trick to doing that is not having an attachment to that particular outcome,” Doug said. You’re focused on the future instead of not letting it slip away.”

The foster process resulted in the couple and their partner Laura getting to keep their son River. But it also produced some heartbreak, like when the government came to place a child a week earlier than expected. Suddenly, the family had a few hours to say goodbye. 

“What a zen experience it is to foster, because you just don’t have a lot of information about the history  on these kids and you also have no idea what their future holds,” Telisha said, admitting that she regularly cries when performing “Love You Right Now.” “You have no idea how long they’re going to be with you. I had to be all in in every moment that we did have them in our care.”

The family is still in touch with that child and speak glowingly about where he ended up. 

“It’s a complicated grief, because I’m so thrilled that it’s working out for this kid,” Doug said. “But you can’t help but to grieve a little bit for someone who’s not going to be in your life in the same way anymore.”

Other anxieties and sorrows are present throughout. “Bury The Young” was written in response to school shootings, and gun policy is just one reason the Williams thruple are considering leaving Tennessee despite loving Nashville.

“We live in a state where when we had a big school shooting in our city, our governor and state legislature super majority decided that the best response was not to get guns out of schools, but instead to pass laws to allow the teachers to open carry in the classrooms and require firearms training for the students,” Doug said. “It’s just weird to look at the rest of the world and see what works and to see folks in America moving in what’s so clearly the wrong direction.”

The fetal embryo transfers had their own issues. Though Iris is alive and well, their first attempt didn’t take. 

It’s a bittersweet context to the song “Heartbeat,” where Telisha is thrilled to hear new life developing within and holding as tight as she can to it.  

In Tennessee, where abortion, drag queens and certain books are regularly listed as among the top threats to kids, this queer family is giving their all to making foster children feel loved and finding any way possible to bring life into the world, even if it meant the baby shared neither of their DNA. Iris has genetic siblings, just with different parents giving birth to each one. 

“It came with a community,” Telisha said. “It came with a whole other set of people who get to be a part of our family.”

The joys, the unconditional love, the hanging onto memories and tradition, those feelings make up just as much of the album as do the difficulties. It’s an honest album that captures every high, low, and nuance in between. It tells a truly unique story authentically and should be heard by all perspective parents, even those seeking a more traditional experience. In the end, it’s a later track that sums up the Williams’ determination that somehow overcame all the harsh realities stacked against them.

“Wind, love, and water go damn well where they please,” Telisha sings. By embodying that love, Wild Ponies completed their quest and elevated themselves to the status of force of nature.

Above is the full episode as aired on WUSB’s Country Pocket, including both my interview with Wild Ponies and the songs we discussed, starting with Love You Right Now, which details a hasty goodbye to a foster child and regularly produces tears for the band at live performances. The interview begins with the second video in the playlist. You can hear the show live every Tuesday at 12pm on WUSB 90.1 FM or check the blog to watch it as a YouTube playlist. Visit http://www.WUSB.fm and https://www.wildponies.net for more. Photo by Laura Schneider.

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Kelley Mickwee Sets Empowering Lyrics to Americana Soul On Everything Beautiful

Sweet soulful sounds and relatable, empowering lyrics are the unifying theme on Kelley Mickwee’s Everything Beautiful, which otherwise captures a number of moods and stages of life.

Mickwee didn’t write songs for this record so much as she assembled them from her catalogue. She wrote some songs a long time ago and only one specifically for Everything Beautiful: Force of Nature. It was, like few other soul tracks before it, inspired by an episode of the NPR show StarDate. 

“The beauty of life is the movement of change/It don’t ever stay the same/Light takes time to travel/Making its way through all that matter,” Mickwee sings.

“I don’t think I got it right, which is good because that would be plagiarism,” Mickwee joked. “I remembered pieces of what he said and put it together to fit what my point was.”

Her beliefs veer all over the place, jumping from scientific fact to religion to nurture. It’s a good reflection of where Mickwee is spiritually. She’s a bit all over the place and doesn’t pretend to know the answers, but finds use in positive practices.

“It’s all a wonder to me,” Mickwee said. “I feel very connected to astrology and Native American culture. I do a lot of grounding. Just straight up feet on the Earth. I’m not a Christian. I investigate different avenues.”

“Force of Nature” isn’t alone in being joyful; “Joyful” is quite literally the name of the first song on the album. “About Time” is an inspirational political sermon. And the title track is a sublime nature walk and the rare song of remembrance that avoids focusing on the pain. When the emotions hit, it’s hard to tell whether they’re hurting or healing you. There’s plenty of other moods on this album, but none so frequently drawn on as joy. 

“Comes Out Wrong” is one of the more unique tracks for Mickwee. It’s vulnerable and devoted in ways that few songs are. It’s a preemptive apology that’s genuine. It seeks to reassure loved ones that conflicts aren’t everything.

“It’s really hard to always remember how much I love them,” Mickwee admits, saying the song makes her think more of family members than a romantic relationship. “I was really humbled by an experience 9 or 10 years ago. Once you’re humbled, you learn the beautiful act of apology. I discovered how to be vulnerable and be accountable.” 

Perhaps the discovery was too life-changing.

“I admit I’m wrong all the time now,” Mickwee half joked. “Probably too much.” 

“You Lie” is a direct and somewhat fun takedown song, but “Long Goodbye” is a more satisfying breakup. The song presents the idea that trying to change someone is just a drawn out way of losing them. It’s something I’ve experienced from both sides but haven’t been able to put into such incisive words.

Of all the lyrics I’ve been delighted to hear put to soul music, it’s the self-examination and anxiety of “Verge of Tears.” 

“You’re not the kind of man you think you are,” an artifact of gender left in from a male cowriter, is the harshest line the narrator hurls at himself, but the notion that everyone else can see his internal distress is the main fear of the song.

“The truth is no one can,” Mickwee says. “You think that your stuff is so important and other people are going to want to talk to you about it or pick up on it, but no one cares. They got their own stuff.”

It’s these specific scenarios that makes Mickwee’s writing so good. And while the songs may have been written at different times, they compliment each other so nicely with a consistent soft soul vibe. And whether Mickwee is uplifting, resolute, or pissed, she’s certainly empowering at each opportunity. 

Above is the full episode as aired on WUSB’s Country Pocket, including both my interview with Kelley Mickwee and the songs we discussed, starting with Force of Nature, which turns StarTalk into inspiration. The interview begins with the second video in the playlist. You can hear the show live every Tuesday at 12pm on WUSB 90.1 FM or check the blog to watch it as a YouTube playlist. Visit http://www.WUSB.fm and http://www.kelleymickwee.com for more.

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Kevin Gordon Looks Back On His Youth With Understanding And At Society With Dismay On The In Between

Middle age is supposed to bring about a crisis. For Kevin Gordon, it brings about more reflection than confusion. “The In Between” is a record that lives as much in the past as the present and often documents the change, or lack there of, that Gordon has seen in his lifetime. Most admirable is Gordon’s refusal to look back with nostalgia or harsh judgment of any individual. While he certainly takes issue with society’s slow progress on civil rights, he treats every person in his musical memoir, himself included, with understanding.

“The In Between” and “Simple Things” both revisit the pandemic to very different results. The pandemic has been over for a couple of years now and “Simple Things” is very much a song stuck in that moment of boredom and loneliness. “The In Between,” by contrast, still feels fresh in 2024. Quarantine is one of many things that get a mention as feeling surreal. But the song branches out in so many directions: being a parent with an empty nest, traveling for work and missing time at home, distrust of the government, and yes, the pandemic. Gordon brilliantly describes it as feeling like “Gary Busey playing old Howard Hughes.” 

But somehow that’s not the most memorable part of the adventure. 

“A lot of people I love/I no longer recognize,” Gordon sings toward the end of it. He went through a time of life and a time in history that have been known to produce some powerful feelings and came away with a meditative title track and an appreciation for the fact that certain things aren’t going to feel settled. Others who faced the same disorientation were radicalized.

“It became about the era of Trumpism and Covid. It became about the acceptance of people who I generally considered to be of sound mind latching onto all of the garbage we were being exposed to over that time,” Gordon said. “Some of it is just indicative of what the internet and social media are. I hope we have a little better grounding in terms of being able to accept objective reality.”

Those feelings of regret, being lost, and watching the world change for the worse remain relatable well after businesses reopened because society still hasn’t returned to what used to feel normal. Making peace with the fact that it’s going to keep feeling weird is a uniquely powerful and mature statement. And bringing up a lost jar of secret money seems to emphasize that keeping all inside won’t do any good.

“Tammy Cecile” also captures that in between phase beautifully. “We had the requisite breakup sex” is a hilarious and sad line about, according to Gordon, “the tragicomic nature of that point in a relationship where all parties involved know it’s an absolute mess.” 

During our conversation, Gordon expressed some hesitancy about including information about Tammy’s suicide attempt. He ultimately decided to include it to show the full scope of the situation he was in. It didn’t feel exploitative to me; the song ends with what seems like a very genuine “I hope you’re better now.” 

Songwriters have to make difficult choices sometimes about what details of their life they reveal. What heals one listener dealing with a similar situation can hurt the person it’s about. If the ethics are unclear, the intention isn’t. Gordon is first and foremost a story teller. And the fact that Gordon revealed his deliberations without prompting is just one more example of the honesty and thought that power “The In Between.” 

After all that, it’s quite ironic that one of the better songs on the album relies on Gordon refusing to accept reality. “You Can’t Hurt Me No More” is a song about someone who, in fact, can quite easily tear the narrator to shreds. As the descriptions of pain the narrator “isn’t” experiencing get more specific and elaborate, it becomes increasingly clear that he’s indeed feeling every last bit. 

“At its worst, that sort of vulnerability feels like something you can’t get away from,” Gordon said. “Something that you’re doomed to.”

It’s an odd fit on an album that’s mostly honest, mature, and probative. “Love Right” works because Gordon is drawing from life experience and recognizing mistakes without questioning anyone’s motives. It’s hard to complain about two great songs, but the shift in reliability of the narrator does make “You Can’t Hurt Me No More” feel like more of a single than part of the same work that dealt with situations with the reliability and nuance of the first nine tracks.

“Keeping My Brother Down” and “Marion” are the two protest songs on the album. The former is furious about police killings and racism and is most compelling when Gordon describes feeling the burden of these injustices as being his to bear as a white man. 

“A lot of people who come from my neck of the woods meaning the south prefer to cast that responsibility off saying ‘that wasn’t me,’” Gordon said. “I spend some time on social media looking at statements of people I went to high school with and I’m just astounded by the relative blindness.”

The latter is sad and sweet. Gordon’s attempt to understand a gay resident of his hometown comes with a heavy dose of hindsight and a recognition that Marion’s hopelessness was very much a feature of the government that was supposed to be protecting him. “Reagan won,” Gordon says to start a verse. He describes the havoc wrought by the AIDS virus and in one of the most devastating two word political take downs you’ll ever hear, repeats those same words: “Reagan won.”

While Gordon says the awareness among some white people has greatly improved since his childhood, he still recognizes troubling signs in increasingly extreme rhetoric. With the election coming up soon, it’s hard not to feel like everything is somewhere in the in between. 

Above is the full episode as aired on WUSB’s Country Pocket, including both my interview with Kevin Gordon and the songs we discussed, starting with Keeping My Brother Down, in which Gordon confronts a long legacy of police brutality done in the name of his race. The interview begins with the second video in the playlist. You can hear the show live every Tuesday at 12pm on WUSB 90.1 FM or check the blog to watch it as a YouTube playlist. Visit http://www.WUSB.fm and https://kg.kevingordon.net for more.

photo by Jacob Blickenstaff

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Having Mastered Her Craft, Kim Richey Describes Strained Communication On Every New Beginning

It feels like Kim Richey has been writing and performing folk music forever, but she’s still improving her craft. The 2018 song “Chase Wild Horses” was an impressive feat. The sadness of surrender and the security in having found wisdom played against each other beautifully and Richey seemed to shine in building urgency without losing any of the melancholy that’s always been among her most appealing traits. 

Every New Beginning is a continuation of the catchiness, tempo, and mixed emotions. It’s Richey’s most melodically pleasing album to date and consistently addresses topics with intelligence and specificity. Even on the songs that don’t quite dive as deep, such as “Joy Rider,” stick to their mood and work as entertainment.

The most interesting tracks on the album both have to do with strained communication. “The World Is Flat” is slower, darker, and more discordant than the rest of the album and I mean that in a good way. It’s a painful track about a relationship truly having run its course. High, icy piano notes and lines like “the best we can do is try to be civil” nail down the mood before a strumming guitar build the song into a slightly easier listen. It’s one of Richey’s older songs, and one she resisted recording for a while. 

“I never recorded it because it just seemed too sad to me. I know I write a lot of sad songs because they’re comforting to me, but there’s always some hope or defiance” Richey said. “But that song, the singer just seems to have given up.”

While it fits our current political mood about as well as “Floating on the Surface,” Richey is hesitant to say we’ve come to the edge of the map as a society. That would absolutely be too dark for her. 

“Floating on the Surface,” is her read on the larger picture. The song takes its name from the surface level conversation that seems so necessary at times.

“With our political environment right now, there are certain people who are friends or family and politics might not be the best choice of topic,” Richey said. As for attempts at healing, she said “it’s getting harder, but I think there are a lot of people making an effort.”

The metaphor extends deeper as she describes our relatively peaceful way of life as calm skies while all the while “we drift on the current and we never look back.” Richey herself is hesitant to dive to the bottom of the sea and try to have a conversation across the aisle, though she does enjoy podcasts that approach those tough conversations in a respectful manner. 

“Truthfully I try to steer clear, mostly,” she admitted. “It’s the most fun talking to people who believe the same thing you do.”

“Goodbye Ohio,” with its impeccable bridge, also describes a drifting apart with a chill settling in and a curtain-like night, though it at least implies that good things can come from moving on by virtue of all the time that’s passed. 

The closest thing Richey presents to an antidote for all of this is warmth and understanding. It’s not a solution but still damn good medicine. “A Way Around,” is a song that functions as a hug that sounds unusually saccharine for Richey with its gentle harmonies. Instead of fighting the blues, it recommends listening to a sad song. 

“I think I wrote that chorus a little bit to myself,” Richey said. “I like how the song says I know how you feel. It’s just nice to have somebody say ‘I get it’ instead of giving advice and trying to tell you how to fix something. A lot of when you’re not in the best possible place you don’t want somebody fixing you. You just want to feel heard.”

Perhaps that’s why “Feel This Way” works as well as it does for a late album song. It’s pure understanding and acknowledgement than healing takes time. Our tense society can’t last like this forever. It’s unsustainable. But it’s still hard to see the light at the end of the proverbial tunnel.  

“It hurts like it’s always gonna feel this way/it don’t help knowing that it won’t someday,” Richey sings. 

While “Every New Beginning” certainly describes some strained communication, it’s clear that Richey can sing exactly what someone who’s hurting needs to hear.

Above is the full episode as aired on WUSB’s Country Pocket, including both my interview with Kim Richey (who somehow actually came on my show) and the songs we discussed, starting with Floating On The Surface, which captures our tense mood around politics. The interview begins with the second video in the playlist. You can hear the show live every Tuesday at 12pm on WUSB 90.1 FM or check the blog to watch it as a YouTube playlist. Visit http://www.WUSB.fm and https://kimrichey.com/news/ for more.

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Laurel Lewis Debuts With Album of Impactful Stories

Laurel Lewis’ self-titled debut has a certain heaviness about it. Her deep vocals mean most of the instruments around her have to come down an octave as well. Producer Rodney Crowell wisely allows Lewis’ vocals to convey more emotion than the relatively sparse backing band on her slow-paced tracks. Combine that with topics such as harassment, loneliness, addiction, and domestic violence, and the mood is dour.

Heavy isn’t a bad thing. Roots music has long served as a form of therapy. And while these laments aren’t exactly high and lonesome, they don’t miss their mark. Lewis’ lyrics progress as stories and few words are wasted for the sake of a rhyme. It’s not dancing music, but the quality of this record is unmatched on a cloudy night.

Lewis herself is significantly cheerier but just as thoughtful as her lyrics suggest. She joined Country Pocket to discuss the debut, including a song called “Imaginary Lover” she wrote as a teenager. It talks about the benefits, and hollowness, of going on dates with strangers that are more about a good time than any sustainable form of happiness.

“I felt left out compared to other people in terms of not having a partner,” Lewis said, defining an imaginary lower as “someone that you cling to for the night to satisfy your craving of wanting to be desired.”

That mix of hedonism and satisfaction is well established in lyrics that flash from self-destructive in the verse and putting a positive spin on things in the refrain.

“Consistently going out and finding people to essentially numb the pain is going to get tiring and overwhelming,” Lewis said. “Not having a constant in your life, I’ve found, is quite difficult.”

For the first track of her album, Lewis addresses catcalling. As a woman who frequently travels and visits bars to support her music career, she unfortunately has her fair share of experience with the subject. 

“Women are constantly judged for their bodies. For some reason, there are some people who feel it’s okay to make negative comments and weird remarks and faces about women when they don’t even know that person,” Lewis said. “I’ve been judged for my looks, good or bad. It’s difficult.”

The secondary concept of the song, that patience can erode over time regardless of how many different men are doing the catcalling, can apply to many a situation. And though the contrast between a woman having to work to control internal emotions like forgiveness and men not even attempting to regulate external behaviors is telling, Lewis seems to have come to the concept of her song genuinely.

“I want to forgive those kinds of people because I want to be the bigger person,” she said. “It’s hard to hold grudges against several people for your entire life. Even if it’s not the same man doing it every time, when that situation keeps arising, it just becomes extremely difficult to brush it off. It weighs you down so much.”

In addition to sharing how the situations have made her feel, Lewis criticizes these types of men for lack of self control and uses empathy to try to reach them. Still, she said she’s not interested in being the one to have that conversation with them. Men who catcall are not the most approachable or predictable bunch.

Lewis called writing about addiction leading to death as a tough decision, but it produced her most remarkable track.

“I’ve seen how it can destroy things so quickly,” Lewis said. “I felt compelled to use the information that I’ve gathered throughout the years. It affected me so greatly that I needed an outlet to express the suffering that I endured throughout years of my life”

The lyrics include flashes of the alcoholic’s personality and roller coaster relationship with his substance of choice, but perhaps more interestingly it looks into the mind of the bartender relaying the story. When she discusses the moral injury that comes with serving alcohol to desperate people night after night and watching their deterioration play out, it’s clear to me as someone with an addict in their life that Lewis suffered through much the same thing.

Also compelling is “Family Woman,” where Lewis both rejects the notion that she’d ever want to settle down with kids, but leaves the door open to it if “there’s freedom in the breeze.” She instead opts to chase “the bigger things in life” and in our conversation, said for some people who pursue certain lifestyles, having kids would “diminish their light a little bit.” 

“I have a few child free people in my life who I really look up to and I’ve asked them before do you ever want to maybe consider a family route, they’re like ‘nope, I’m good, I’m happy being me and having my own time. Anyone who wants to do that, absolutely excellent, go for it, but personally it’s not for me,’” Lewis said.

As you might imagine, she’s not a huge fan of the term “childless cat lady,” but doesn’t hold anything against people who want to have kids or even rule out the future for herself.

“Whatever my decision might end up being, it’s okay. The beauty of it is it should be a choice.”

Above is the full episode as aired on WUSB’s Country Pocket, including both my interview with Laurel Lewis and the songs we discussed, starting with Room Without A View, which hews closely to trauma Lewis experienced in the past. The interview begins with the second video in the playlist. You can hear the show live every Tuesday at 12pm on WUSB 90.1 FM or check the blog to watch it as a YouTube playlist. Visit http://www.WUSB.fm and https://www.laurellewis.com for more.